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rober584812

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Oracle Database 11g XE
Posted: Jul 14, 2007 2:01 PM
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Exists Oracle Database 11g Express Edition?
.Marc

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Re: Oracle Database 11g XE
Posted: Jul 15, 2007 3:04 PM   in response to: rober584812 in response to: rober584812
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See below for the answer given by Faust on a thread previously answered on this forum. Search-and-Ye-Shall-Find

Regards, Marc


Given that 11g is on the near horizon, does anyone know (and can they say) if Express Edition part of the 11g line-up ?

At Oracle Develop Conference in Prague I asked Mark Townsend (Vice President of Database Product Management) who was product manager for 10g XE, this question.

Answer was that Oracle will wait for 11gR2 to realize new XE version.

Cheers!

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More about ODC 2007 in Prague, from my point of view, you can find here:
http://oradev2007.blogspot.com/
dccase

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Re: Oracle Database 11g XE
Posted: Jul 15, 2007 4:25 PM   in response to: rober584812 in response to: rober584812
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No edition of 11g really exists yet, except for beta testers.
Yawei Zhang

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Re: Oracle Database 11g XE
Posted: Jul 20, 2007 5:31 PM   in response to: dccase in response to: dccase
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Will they expand the limitation in 11g xe?

Like: Max memorey: 2G.
Storeage of user data: 10G.

That willl be good news.!!!!
Hans Forbrich

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Re: Oracle Database 11g XE
Posted: Jul 22, 2007 9:48 AM   in response to: Yawei Zhang in response to: Yawei Zhang
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Maybe.

They will probably think about such things if

a) enough of us request them - preferrably by creating a new thread like "Feature Request: Increase Max Memory"; or
b) the competition (DB2 Express and SQL Server Express) does them
Yawei Zhang

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Re: Oracle Database 11g XE
Posted: Jul 26, 2007 9:51 PM   in response to: Hans Forbrich in response to: Hans Forbrich
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Better we, Oracle, lead the pack:

Ok, I say,

-- Max memory: 2G
-- Max storage: 20G.


Those are the PCs which can support currenlty.
TongucY

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Re: Oracle Database 11g XE
Posted: Aug 9, 2007 9:28 AM   in response to: Yawei Zhang in response to: Yawei Zhang
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Referencing the Express Edition Licensing Information guide - http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B25329_01/doc/license.102/b25456/toc.htm my votes go to -

1. More globalization support, Turkish please :)
2. Data Compression, more free space within limitations :)
3. Flashback Table, Flashback Query is there so why not :)
4. Point-in-time tablespace recovery, This is where Oracle is powerful and why not some showoff to other open-source options :)
5. Oracle Enterprise Manager, or at least a database control, please :)

Best regards.
Hans Forbrich

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Re: Oracle Database 11g XE
Posted: Aug 11, 2007 3:10 PM   in response to: TongucY in response to: TongucY
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I strongly encourage that each feature get it's own subject (separate thread). That way Oracle can judge the interest by the number of 'me too' replies the feature gets.
Hans Forbrich

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Re: Oracle Database 11g XE
Posted: Aug 11, 2007 3:15 PM   in response to: TongucY in response to: TongucY
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5. Oracle Enterprise Manager, or at least a database control, please :)

While I agree with the sentiment, the purpose of XE was to provide a small, self-contained package. I suspect that adding OEM DB console would add around 500M to the base install. That, and the memory requirement to run the J2EE environment needed for OEM would be enough to a fair chunk of defeat the target audience.

Although I certainly would encourage certified support using Grid Control. That would encourage 'intranet roll-out' and certainly attack the MS Access base. The second step, then is consolidation into a for-fee license.
g.myers

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Re: Oracle Database 11g XE
Posted: Aug 12, 2007 4:11 PM   in response to: Hans Forbrich in response to: Hans Forbrich
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Given that the 11g download is 1.7 Gb (as opposed to the 2-CD size downloads for 10gR2), maybe the 'XE' download size is worth discussing.
The impact on download size was remarked on as one of the reasons for leaving the JVM out of XE (and this is pretty much the only bit of functionality available in Standard Edition that isn't in XE).
If the download size for an 11g XE would be bigger anyway, I'd be happier to have the JVM included.
Virag Sharma

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Re: Oracle Database 11g XE
Posted: Aug 12, 2007 10:56 PM   in response to: dccase in response to: dccase
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No edition of 11g really exists yet, except for beta testers.

Interesting, to know 11g XE exists for beta testers.
Hans Forbrich

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Re: Oracle Database 11g XE
Posted: Aug 15, 2007 11:24 AM   in response to: Virag Sharma in response to: Virag Sharma
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I do not believe there is a beta for 11gXE available (yet)
Hans Forbrich

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Re: Oracle Database 11g XE
Posted: Aug 15, 2007 11:30 AM   in response to: g.myers in response to: g.myers
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Given that the 11g download is 1.7 Gb (as opposed to
the 2-CD size downloads for 10gR2), maybe the 'XE'
download size is worth discussing.
The impact on download size was remarked on as one of
the reasons for leaving the JVM out of XE (and this
is pretty much the only bit of functionality
available in Standard Edition that isn't in XE).
If the download size for an 11g XE would be bigger
anyway, I'd be happier to have the JVM included.

Since Oracle's JVM is a loadable add-on, I would be more than happy to see
- XE base install (basically as it stands right now)
- JVM & core packages as a separate download and install.

After all, the steps to add JVM to database are described http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/java.102/b14187/chfour.htm#BABCFGAB
pmanchev

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Re: Oracle Database 11g XE
Posted: Sep 5, 2007 8:27 AM   in response to: Hans Forbrich in response to: Hans Forbrich
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I don't mind paying just a few bucks (no more than $20 please) for shipping and handling of a DVD containing the Oracle 11g XE with JVM :) to Europe.
Yawei Zhang

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Re: Oracle Database 11g XE
Posted: Sep 9, 2007 10:45 PM   in response to: pmanchev in response to: pmanchev
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A DVD to China, if possible.
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