Thread: ADF Source Code now available... where?


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Jason Foster

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ADF Source Code now available... where?
Posted: Jul 6, 2005 10:02 AM
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http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jdev/htdocs/jdevpricefaq.html#23

According to the above link, the complete source code for ADF is now avaialble from Oracle Support. I contacted support yesterday and they didn't seem to have a clue about it. Subsequently they opened a TAR and the tech assigned also seems clueless. Anyone else try to obtain this?
Klyuev Yuri

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Re: ADF Source Code now available... where?
Posted: Jul 6, 2005 11:34 PM   in response to: Jason Foster in response to: Jason Foster
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try to contacted with metalink.oracle.com
Jason Foster

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Re: ADF Source Code now available... where?
Posted: Jul 7, 2005 8:26 AM   in response to: Klyuev Yuri in response to: Klyuev Yuri
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Metalink was the first place I looked. I did get an update on the TAR though, I was told the person in charge of the source is away on holiday and it will be a couple of weeks before it's available (sure). Also said it will be made available thru metalink in the future. I guess this is a case of the cart getting before the horse. Sure would be nice to have ADF source for debugging.
Shay Shmeltzer

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Re: ADF Source Code now available... where?
Posted: Jul 7, 2005 2:31 PM   in response to: Jason Foster in response to: Jason Foster
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It's our bad.
We are trying to get this onto metalink but having some technical problems with getting the mechanism to accept the license into place.
In the meantime we are doing it on a one-by-one basis with customers who are looking to get it.

By the way JDeveloper 10.1.2 already ships with parts of the ADF code for debugging - check out the BC4J/src code under the JDev install.
Jason Foster

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Posted: Jul 7, 2005 7:36 PM   in response to: Shay Shmeltzer in response to: Shay Shmeltzer
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I noticed the partial ADF source you mentioned, looks to be for data controls and binding... ui stuff. I think it will be a great for productivity, that developers can actually do debug traces through complete ADF source. On the other hand, I hope the ADF code quality is a little better than the JClient code (cough cough!) :)
Jason Foster

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Re: ADF Source Code now available... where?
Posted: Jul 8, 2005 7:17 AM   in response to: Shay Shmeltzer in response to: Shay Shmeltzer
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Shay, you say Oracle is making the ADF source available on a one-by-one basis to customers who are looking to get it, until metalink is able to deliver it.

I just got another reply to my TAR that no, it will not be available whatsoever until July 18, not on a per-customer basis and not until "the guy" comes back from vacation.

Am I getting fed a line here? Can you or other Oracle staff here help me straighten this out?
Shay Shmeltzer

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Re: ADF Source Code now available... where?
Posted: Jul 8, 2005 9:18 AM   in response to: Jason Foster in response to: Jason Foster
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We are telling you the same thing - we still don't have an automatic mechanism in place to give the source code out right now, so we (the missing guy who comes back on the 18th) are giving the code on a one-by-one basis. You'll need to wait a couple more weeks and you'll get it.

By the way, did you look at the code that is already shipped with 10.1.2? is it enough for your needs or are you looking to debug another section?
Jason Foster

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Posted: Jul 8, 2005 10:15 AM   in response to: Shay Shmeltzer in response to: Shay Shmeltzer
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I looked at the code shipped with 10.1.2, it is mostly ADF binding and data control stuff. The source we would really like to have is for the BC4J Runtime libraries, mainly the oracle.jbo.* package. In the JDeveloper library editor, the BC4J Runtime source code entry points to file "BC4J/src/bc4jsrc.zip" but it does not exist in my Jdev 10.1.2 distribution.

Anywho, I am agitating about this because our company is currrently burning through about 30K a month on JClient/ADF/Oracle DB projects that are nearing completion, and we have some bugs that are unresolved. We feel that having the source would go a long way to helping us resolving these bugs, as well as potentially saving us thousands of dollars in extra development time. The sooner developers can get products to market, the sooner Oracle can sell more licenses... and then we'll all be happy, right? :)

So perhaps you and Oracle can understand why, that when it was announced the source for ADF was available, why we got all excited and wanted to get it ASAP.

Regards,

Jason
DominionSpy

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Re: ADF Source Code now available... where?
Posted: Jul 5, 2007 12:39 AM   in response to: Jason Foster in response to: Jason Foster
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Was this idea scrapped, because I don't see any mention of it anywhere on MetaLink.
Also, is it still possible to ask for the source code in relation to an open service request?
John Stegeman

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Re: ADF Source Code now available... where?
Posted: Jul 5, 2007 1:48 AM   in response to: DominionSpy in response to: DominionSpy
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Hi DominionSpy,

Yes, I've done it. You file an SR, then you get some legal stuff to sign (NDA), and there you go.

John
DominionSpy

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Posted: Jul 5, 2007 3:25 AM   in response to: John Stegeman in response to: John Stegeman
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Thanks John.

Just out of interest, did you put Oracle JDeveloper as the product? and what Type of Problem did you select? because none of the ones listed seem to be relevant.
John Stegeman

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Posted: Jul 5, 2007 4:34 AM   in response to: DominionSpy in response to: DominionSpy
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Sorry, it's been over a year, and I cannot recall :(.

I do know that Steve M contacted me after filing it.

John
Didier Laurent

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Re: ADF Source Code now available... where?
Posted: Jul 5, 2007 12:37 PM   in response to: DominionSpy in response to: DominionSpy
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The most important is to chose "Oracle JDeveloper" so that it's directly assigned to a support engineer from the right team.

There is no specific template for asking the source code.
I would select 'Other technical issues with this product', where you just have one field to fill in, if I'm correct.

Please note that Steve is on vacation and you'll have to wait he is back to get the sources.

Regards,

Didier.
DominionSpy

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Re: ADF Source Code now available... where?
Posted: Jul 6, 2007 12:24 AM   in response to: Didier Laurent in response to: Didier Laurent
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Thanks for your input John and Didier, the SR is now submitted.

Something I've noticed about MetaLink is that there is a certain technique to writing an SR in such a way so that it is categorised and assigned quickly and also to get them to actually do anything.

I think it would be useful if someone who knows the process that goes on at MetaLink could write a small guide on how to use it effectively.

Just a thought.
DominionSpy

Didier Laurent

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Re: ADF Source Code now available... where?
Posted: Jul 7, 2007 12:20 AM   in response to: DominionSpy in response to: DominionSpy
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Choosing one "Type of Problems" or one other doesn't influence the time needed to assign a SR. However, choosing the right product does, as it insures that its directly assigned to the right team.

See the "Announcement: Please read this before you post"
(http://forums.oracle.com/forums/ann.jspa?annID=56)
that describes the different forums:

. JDeveloper (IDE) and ADF Here
. TopLink and EJB 3.0
. OC4J
. BPEL and ESB
. WebCenter
. Oracle Applications Framework (OAF)
. JHeadstart (*)

The same applies when logging a SR in Metalink.

(*) JHeadstart support is arranged primarily through the JHeadstart Discussion Forum on OTN and not through Oracle Support Services.

Regards,

Didier.
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